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Alaska's Gull Island Oil Fields Could Power U.S. for 200 Years. By Mark Anderson. August 6, 2006

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"Crude oil is the real 'currency' of the world," said Lindsey Williams at a gathering of the Midwest Concerned Citizens group in Kansas City on July 22. But Americans will never hear about huge oil and gas reserves in the United States, which, if ever tapped, would bring today's fuel prices at least as low as $1.50 per gallon and make America more energy independent.

As a Baptist missionary in the 1970s, Williams said he rubbed elbows with members of the world's power elite—who boasted of detailed 30-year and 50-year plans to control the flow of oil and information.

A huge quantity of crude oil and natural gas exists under Gull Island, located in the waters of Prudhoe Bay in Alaska, says Williams. He cited key British Petroleum memoranda and related the statements of upper echelon oil officials who told him that Gull Island would be kept under wraps, limiting domestic supplies so Americans would someday see prices hit up to $10 a gallon at the pump.

"Every issue in the world today relates to crude oil," said Williams. The U.S. occupation of Iraq and the saber rattling about attacking Iran fit into the crude oil matrix.

Iran is being targeted because it's one of several countries that want to use their own currencies for oil sales, rather than using the U.S. dollar. Williams told AFP that any country that doesn't want to "play ball" with the U.S. government and the financial and oil interests is, in essence, put on a hit list.

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147&hl=en

1:15:08 video talk by Lindsey Williams on his experience in Alaska, 1977 as a chaplain for ARCO, his book, and the Gull Island oil discovery in Prudhoe Bay, Alaska.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2027598/posts#comment

He told AFP that the IMF-World Bank acts as a middleman between oil producing nations and refineries. In so doing, they set oil prices, he said.

The big event in that three-year period was in 1977 when an Atlantic Richfield oil executive told him, "We have just drilled into the largest pool of oil in North America—[and] in the world!"

That pool was Gull Island. It was said that there was enough natural gas to supply America for 200 years. But to this day, "not one drop" of that oil has been released to American refineries, Williams said.

Williams said the executive had warned him that the Gull Island find was highly classified. Do not repeat any of this, he was told. Obviously, that warning did not stop him.

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Reply#1 - Sat Jun 7, 2008 2:58 PM EDT
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He cited key British Petroleum memoranda and related the statements of upper echelon oil officials who told him that Gull Island would be kept under wraps,

Way too self serving, fortuitous and suspicious timing; I don't buy the whole ploy to drill Alaska.

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#1.1 - Sat Jun 7, 2008 3:45 PM EDT
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He told AFP that the IMF-World Bank acts as a middleman between oil producing nations and refineries. In so doing, they set oil prices, he said.

LOL break out the tin foil hats

This post would make a great stage play at Disney land,

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#1.2 - Sat Jun 7, 2008 3:56 PM EDT
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{"commentId":1919363,"authorDomain":"LarryH"}

The 1:15:08 videotaped talk by Lindsey Williams was given October 24, 2007 at the Granada Forum, San Fernando Valley, California. He predicted $4 to $5 per gallon gasoline in the near future.

He recommended the book Confessions of an Economic Hit man (2005) by John Perkins. [unavailable on Amazon.com]

Audio book Audio Length: 9 hours and 19 min, reduced to $20.98.

This is the inside story of how America turned from a respected republic into a feared empire.

"Economic hit men," John Perkins writes, "are highly paid professionals who cheat countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars. Their tools include fraudulent financial reports, rigged elections, payoffs, extortion, sex, and murder."

John Perkins should know; he was an economic hit man. His job was to convince countries that are strategically important to the U.S., from Indonesia to Panama, to accept enormous loans for infrastructure development and to make sure that the lucrative projects were contracted to Halliburton, Bechtel, Brown and Root, and other United States engineering and construction companies. Saddled with huge debts, these countries came under the control of the United States government, World Bank, and other U.S.-dominated aid agencies that acted like loan sharks, dictating repayment terms and bullying foreign governments into submission.

This extraordinary real-life tale exposes international intrigue, corruption, and little-known government and corporate activities that have dire consequences for American democracy and the world.

©2004 John Perkins; (P)2005 Blackstone Audiobooks.

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Reply#2 - Sun Jun 8, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
{"commentId":1920695,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

Great recommendation, people need to see what dirty dealings the corporate interests have had in the global policies throughout our American history. It is a sordid and ugly tale, seldom told.

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#2.1 - Sun Jun 8, 2008 12:03 PM EDT
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"Democracy"? I thought the United States was a "Constitutional Republic" as our founding fathers deemed in their documents. Please correct yourself sir. From the Pledge Of Allegiance...."and for the Republic for which it stands..."

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#2.2 - Fri Jul 4, 2008 3:58 PM EDT
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Something to do with copying the Roman Imperial agenda huh!

People that use this angle are all about making sure that only elitists have power and that the rest of us stay stupid. Our representatives get to play with democratic ideas, but we get to play with propaganda from the corporate owned (mostly republican) Mainstream Media.

One of the parties does try and practice democratic ideas. I can't vouche for the other one. We saw what that means: Winner takes all, with Bush and your top down agenda.

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#2.3 - Fri Jul 4, 2008 6:26 PM EDT
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I saw the video.

Very suspicious of this claim. Why? If there is such a hidden field, then why are they wanting to go after ANWR. Its been blocked for a reason, because it would destroy the calfing grounds of the entire Caribou heards of North America. They know this. Yet. Bush has just lied with the worst kind of deceit with their plan to push 1/2 of the ANWR site into production using administrative tactics.

The DOE has estimated that there are 11 billion barrels of oil in Alaska, or about 6 months of total U.S. usage. This much more why we see the push to expand into ANWR.

Let's cut the numbers up and be real honest here because energy experts in this country lie a whole lot about what's there and why.

The U.S. currently uses 1/4 of the world's total productive output, yet only represents 5% of the population. This equates into over 20 billion barrels of oil a year at current rates of usage. The key here is "CURRENT RATES of USAGE".

If Williams is correct, then at current rates of usage that means there are over 4 trillion barrels of oil in Alaska or more oil ever discovered in the world by over 4x. If this is the case, then not only are we talking about amounts that would bring the cost of oil far below $1.50 a gallon.

That would put this socalled Gull field at a thousand times bigger than any other known field ever discovered.

Sorry. The guy is nuts. Something that big could never have been bottled up especially in the 70's considering the facts around the OPEC embargo. It would mean that all the U.S. oil companies sitting on this are not only traitors to the U.S. but purposefully wanting to destroy this country's economy. There are a lot of people who might buy into the greed angle, but few who would see them as willing partners in destroying the U.S. economy.

Lastly, When I mention current usage. We have been expanding our usage at a rate of 7% per year for some time as a result nearly doubling our total demands every 10 years. Same thing at the planetwide level. So that means every 10 years we are using more oil than ever on a scale that is rapidly increasing so fast that even 4 trillion barrels could not last anything like 200 years.

The same idiotic claims are being made about coal in the past where claims that we have over 400 years of supplies. Not if we dramaticaly allow the kinds of annual growth that has been going going on. Those 400 years are now down to just over 40 years left at the present rate of doubling of usage that is going on every decade.

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Reply#3 - Sun Jun 8, 2008 6:31 PM EDT
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energynet, fuel usage in America is inelastic. That means people will not switch to alternatives in the short run, they will just pay more to consume the same quantity.

A price rise will not destroy the U.S. economy. It will just shift our spending patterns and burden the final consumer, "us". Perhaps in eight years people will be willing to loosen the environmentally motivated Congressional restrictions on more oil exploration and development. Otherwise, we can plead with Mexico, Venezuela, Cuba, and Brazil to sell us oil at below world prices.

energynet, your math on the size of the Gull Island reserve is questionable.

Environmentalists have stood firm in opposing more offshore drilling since the 1970s. So the oil companies wanted to expand drilling in far away Alaska. That too reached a barrier, ANWR. Now the strategy is to use up Middle East oil first and save American oil reserves for the far future.

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Reply#4 - Sun Jun 8, 2008 11:50 PM EDT
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You clearly don't understand the math then. We are using over 20 billion barrels of oil a year right now. We have been increasing our usage at between 4-7% a year for the last 20 years. Or in other words, we are using far more oil today than we were in 1986. Go look at any EIA chart. Furthermore, the official EIA reports give no numbers for oil anywhere in Alaska on any such scale, ANWR may hold at most 11 billion barrels or barely 6 months of oil for this country. Those are official numbers of the U.S. government, not mine.

You say there is enough oil for 200 years right on the title.

Do the math 20 billion times 200. It equals 4 trillion or more than 4 times the rest of the known supplies ever recovered for the entire world in the last 150 years.

The man is nuts. Your inelastic statement has no meaning.

I can say that the moon is solid therefore I might get hurt if I run into it too fast.

You clearly haven't been listening to the likes of T Boone Pickens. His recent interview on Bloomberg's online news layed out the facts that when supply is outstripped by demand prices rise. If demand cannot be met then there is a point where hoarding sets in due to fears of future supply issues. We are clearly in a hoarding phase of pricing.

The U.S. reached its own peak oil point, that's the point where our supplies can no longer meet demand back around 1970. That is the point where gas prices started rising. Today, we have to import and have done so at an immense expense to this economy a growing percentage of oil form outside the U.S. That means we have a huge balance of trade problem where we have to buy nearly a trillion dollars worth of foreign oil a year.

The idea that corporations or the government of this country would be willing to sit on such a huge supply of oil all this time is beyond lunacy. I have no love for this government or its oil industry. But no one in that industry in their right mind would sit on such a supply all this time.

I clearly don't think you have thought much about this issue or have any clear background in it, or such off the wall ideas would not have been posted. The cost of oil effects every aspect of this culture, from plastics, fertilizers, drugs and not least our food prices.

As we have seen with the new interest in Canada's dirty shale deposits, this is not the kind of oil that will come with the same kind of price tag. Some experts are clearly suggesting that the current price rise is all about pushing these poorer quality, more expensive grades of fuel to use onto the market. It is very likely your hero may not have had the brightest awareness of the difference in types of oil that may have been available. There may very well be an immense potential of shale in Alaska as there is in Canada. It has not come to light, and if it were there, it would represent even more opposition to its mining as it would require strip mining immense amounts of land and at huge expense.

For the beginner in this field there terms like the ratio ratio of energy put into production vs. what is gotten out. Shale has a fraction of the energy in it that North Sea sweet crude has.

For anyone who has eyes then end of this high quality crude is soon coming to a close. What will your great grandchildren be relying on if we don't dramaticaly change the way we mine or use dozens of non-renewable resources, including steel, copper, and a number of other metals that are becoming increasingly scarce?

There are clear examples of what would happen to this society if the price of oil doubles one more time. It will have dramatic effects across the board making a recession into something far worse. I don't know about you, but my parents were hit very hard by the last depression. To me, they represented the classic example of a conservative. Waste nothing and be frugal. Those values are no longer to be found by hardly anyone anywhere.

Thanks to the current admistration's attacks upon the rest of the world, he has launched a new cold war, energy wars that we will no longer be able to compete against because we are now using more oil than anyone else in the world. The rest of the world is fully capable of paying just as much as we are for that oil and there is no doubt because of our excessive bullying in the middle east that the largest producers in the world won't just be selling it to us because we are nice guys.

Many experts I've read predict that this country is in for a long downward slide that will not be reversed until the country either dramatically reduces its energy usage or finds renewable sources onshore. And don't think nuclear power will come to you save you either, as the U.S. has one of the poorer supplies of uranium, considering the global supplies. CFR has already done studies on this and they show that nuclear even if reopened could barely hold its own ground... And that's from the Council on Foreign Relations... The elitists that have been ruling this country for the last 70 years.

Keep that SUV and watch the country go to hell just like it did under Reagan in the early 80's. The Fed has alredy pulled its punches, We get another surprise like Katrina and this mess will tank.

Take the blinders off bud. Its a world of your making. Supply and demand has a big curve. When enough lolly pops can no longer be made fast enough or in big enough quantity the price goes up.

If the price doesn't go up, but starts to double over periods of time, that include suggestions of hoarding, you might want to pack your bags and head to Venezuela. :)

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#4.1 - Mon Jun 9, 2008 2:10 AM EDT
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Gull Island is a hoax for the gullible.

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    Reply#5 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:30 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2090302,"authorDomain":"LarryH"}

    Your proof?

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    #5.1 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:11 PM EDT
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    I can believe the oil companies would "kow-tow" to the IMF-ers. If the big oil companies "messed-with" the IMF, who would EVER loan them money to drill, so they might not "like it, but they'd DO IT(--keep quiet). For YEARS, the big three auto-people SHOULD have been telling the bureaucrats, NO!, and just shut-down completely, for months/years. People (voters) would have been screaming, in weeks, about no cars/trucks, and the govt.'d have had to "back down". The critics I've read so far in this blog, ALL sound like "ECO-verts", --NOT dealing with the facts. THEY want oil to be exhaustible, but oil, is methane placed under thousands of pounds per square inch (in the abscence of O2 that'd burn/explode/otherwise "oxidize" it). the hydrocarbons of this planet can be shoved-around almost any way we desire. Nazi Germany would NOT have invaded Poland in '39 if they didn't have "high-test (--premium)" aviation gas, --tens of thousands of gallons of it a month, MADE FROM COAL. Beyond ANWAR, Gull Ise, tar sands & our Gulf, We could crack coal to "fuel" our needs, be it conventional petroleum, or Hydrogen. These price run-ups SHOULD have the private sector desparately searcing for alternate-production...of conventional fuels, until other better ones arrive. But if we are to "gasify" coal, we need to do some of the following, one of which is, Get the ECO-NAZIS off our backs, some of them "run" by nations with reserves so large, they are unquantifiable, at this time (Russia/CIS). Putin IS the "Czar" of energy, as he can get "Merkle and the Strausbourg-ettes" to Polka to his Russian folk-dances with the mere tap of the gas-pipe wheel. Institute a "Manhatten Project" of drilling/gasification/mining, etc, to the point of Energy Independence. To gasify coal, we'll NEED steel, because coal-gas refineries take ten times the steel of a conventional fractionating plant. So this ENERGY OPPORTUNITY...can also somewhat restore high-paying "rust-belt" jobs. We can ALSO make diesil from bacteria or algae, and if the Kennedys personally objected to windmills, wave-action, pumping or tides could maybe "sit-in" for those ughly, bird-killing turbines. Bugs can be genetically MUTATED(--a good thing!) to directly produce diesil, without refining, as their waste product! Lastly, the Air Force project on using hemp for jet fuel WAS successful, and ALL jet fuel used by our national carriers COULD be grown by non-THC industrial Hemp (--Canada has over 300 varieties), in "waste-land" areas, as soon as the Democrats stop trying to continue Red-state gas-Grief as an inducement to usher in yet another benighted Socialist, like "B.O."

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      Reply#6 - Sat Jul 5, 2008 11:24 PM EDT
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      Anchorage-based Petroleum News has an article in its July 13 edition about the oil potential of Gull Island and the allegations surrounding it. PN had a map made up of the area and interviewed the top USGS geologist for Alaska's North Slope and two geologists who sat the Gull Island No. 1 well in 1976 (geologist speak for monitoring and interpreting the geologic evidence from a well while it is being drilled).
      Here's the link to the article in html (text): Here's the pdf version that shows article and a map: #page=1
      I contacted them and PN executive editor Kay Cashman is looking for more information on Gull Island kaycashman@petroleumnews.com. She said the newspaper is going to continue follow the subject.

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      Reply#7 - Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:30 PM EDT
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      http://www.petroleumnews.com/cgi-bin/start.cgi/homeauto.html?ipnumber=208.127.157.39

      Gull Island buzz: 200 years of oil from Alaska's North Slope? (Full story) Along with a surging interest in fuel-efficient automobiles and biking to work, the legend of Alaska's Gull Island, a speck of land four miles or so offshore the North Slope in the middle of Prudhoe Bay, seems to have an uncanny ability to appear when the United States is facing soaring oil and gaso....

      and the article by Alan Bailey from Petroleum News Vol. 13, No. 28. Week of July 13, 2008, http://www.petroleumnews.com/pntruncate/690171677.shtml

      Williams outlined the field's characteristics in a second edition of the "The Energy Non-Crisis." The Gull Island field has a 1,200-foot thick pay zone and an area four times the size of the giant Prudhoe Bay field, he said. He said that three wells drilled from Gull Island had encountered the field, as did a well at East Dock. All wells drilled in an area extending 40 miles to the east of Gull Island had struck oil, thus demonstrating the huge areal extent of the field, he said.

      The Gull Island State No. 1 well drilled a faulted block of rock known as a horst and recovered oil from a very thin, 9-foot-thick interval at the base of the Shublik formation, Bird said. Gull Island State No. 2, completed in 1977, was deviated to the southeast to delineate the gas cap of the previously discovered Prudhoe Bay field and the underlying Lisburne oil pool, he said. The Gull Island State No. 3 well drilled in 1992 targeted a Cretaceous horizon in an area between the two older wells but proved to be a dry hole, Bird said.

      Since 1980 at least four oil pools, the West Beach, Niakuk, Point McIntyre and North Prudhoe pools, as well as Prudhoe Bay satellites, have been delineated and developed in the area immediately around the Gull Island wells, Bird said. The four pools in the immediate Gull Island area are all currently in production: According to Alaska's Division of Oil and Gas 2007 annual report, Point McIntyre had a cumulative production of 395.6 million barrels of oil at the end of 2006, with 164 million barrels of remaining reserves. The other three pools are much smaller than Point McIntyre.

      "Both the geologic evidence and the small area not yet developed into oil fields around the Gull Island wells preclude the possibility of a giant oil accumulation," Bird said.

      But the Gull Island legend seems to persist.

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      #7.1 - Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:18 PM EDT
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